Dating is Confusing (Sometimes)


When it comes to a (potentially serious) relationship, I am very, very picky. A bit freaky even.

A long conversation with a few girlfriends yesterday just got me heated and inspired to write this.

What do you look for in a guy when you wanna see him as a potential long term partner?

A friend of mine said it’s a stable guy. A stable guy with a stable job in a stable point of life, because it’s easier that way. He has his daily routines predicted, so a pretty committed relationship wont rock that balance. He no longer has to prove anything to other people but himself. He no longer succumbs to social pressure. Relationship will be seen as the cherry on top, instead of a burden. I can’t say I disagree. Although I don’t think a guy who might not be so “stable” isn’t ready for a relationship. It’s about the mentality after all, and your feeling to that other person. OKAY CHEESE.

Another friend of mine would not settle for just a stable guy. She’s pretty, well educated, comes from a good family so she wants all the best things in life, guys involved. She seeks potential trophy husband. Gorgeous, smart, ritzy typical Tatler magazine kind of guy. I’m not judging her option but the all-in-one package guys, kinda scare me. Sure some are normal, down to earth good guys (and mostly taken), but you’ll find a lot of them to be a bit.. too much. Classic alpha males. Been there, done that and the more I get older, the more I don’t think I have enough space in my plate for all that ego and rules. Not to mention they make me insecure all the time.

Not that I have a good self esteem to begin with.

Feeling insecure sucks. Questioning myself all the time is suckier. Which makes me think that what I’m looking for in a relationship / in a guy is security. I think security also involves stability that I mentioned above. That secure and safe feeling. The one that makes you feel like home and just be who you are. It might sound simple but it’s really not because people are different. Certain things your boyfriend / potential boyfriend does might bug you, and shake that secure comfortable feeling.

I, for example, have certain expectations to every serious boyfriend / potential serious boyfriend. There are certain things that guys do that I can take or can’t take in a relationship (but as always, can be compromised unless what he wants is involving sexy things with another girl).

A busy guy who works all the time? I can take that. Pout maybe from time to time but geez, I do the exact same thing anyway. Gotta appreciate those with big dreams and big ambitions. Just as long as he keeps me in the loop, call or text me from time to time. Telling me what he’s up to or where he’s going. Not a familiar concept in every country, maybe, but in Asia it’s quite a dating rule. Stay in touch. Let your boyfriend / girlfriend know what you’re up to, where you’re going and better yet, who you’re going with. It’s not so hard, right? I mean if you really are into somebody, you don’t see keeping them involved in your life as a problem.

A lot of girls, including my friends, rant about this particular relationship issue from time to time. Guys might think girls are crazy but sometimes we just can’t help it. It’s not nice to find out "surprises" about your boyfriends / potential boyfriends. For example, if he has visited a strip club with a bunch of his sleazy friends without telling you beforehand (recently happened to my best friend and she said it hurts like a bitch) or maybe even if he's been hanging out the previous night with girls you don’t know. It doesn’t matter that it’s just a casual hang out. Give a heads up. Be contactable. If they're not doing anything wrong then it shouldn’t be a problem, right? Or is it another dating rule only applicable in Asia again?

Hmm, what else?

A possessive guy with control issues? I can NOT take that. But little jealousy, small nags when wanting extra attention? Cute. I can take it.

A guy who always asks you to do things he likes that you don’t understand (i.e go to concerts of super indie hipsterrific bands you haven’t even heard before or go hiking even though you think it’s the most boring thing to do ever)? I can take that. But a guy who asks you to do all those stuff BUT call your “simpler” interests such as watching all the seasons of The Vampire Diaries or catch the next Justin Timberlake show in town as stupid? Can. Not. Leaving immediately.

I guess if each person in a relationship is really willing to try and meet in the middle, take note to what the other person likes or dislikes and start to think “we” instead of “me”, both of them will feel a bit more secure and happier.

What do you think? What can you take and not take?


Ps. Please tell me I'm not the only one being gushy over the relationship of Stefan Salvatore and Elena Gilbert in The Vampire Diaries? Too CUTE. My tummy can't handle it.

16 comments:

  1. Sara said...:

    Agreed!! With probably every single point you made up there (aside from the Vampire Diaries stuff but that's only because I've never seen the show hehe =P) ... and it's not just in Asia. I'm an Asian in the States and I feel the same way as do my friends (who are not all Asian). It's just the degree of how much you spend time with each other that differs but the basic concept stays the same (no cheating, no messing around, being truthful to each other, etc etc). Some may say they can do 24-7 with that same person whereas I ... I do need some space but do keep me in the loop. Unfortunately, one guy I'd previously dated I thought fit this bill but eventually it turns out, he wouldn't keep me in the loop at all and I had no idea what he was up to. It made me realize that he just didn't care enough to tell me ... The guy after that did exactly what you pointed out that bothers you, telling me my interests were stupid. And I don't enjoy feeling stupid in a relationship. The thing about dating is that the more you do it, the more you realize what you want out of it. And once you realize what you REALLY want out of it, it's not long before you come across one that builds towards truly being successful. It's really hard to tease out the dealbreakers at first glance, really you just gotta go with it and see where everything goes. I also think it's great to talk about this kind of stuff out with your girlfriends as it gives you an idea of what your likes and dislikes would be in a relationship.

  1. Maryx said...:

    Oh I love this post! You're so right! I can totally relate to what you said!

    Aaaaaaannnnnndddddd I'm a huge fan of Vampire Diaries!!! Can't get enough and the latest available episodes in SA are up to Season 2 Episode 16! I'm dying here?!

    Relationships are all about compromise and what you can handle personally huh? It's super interesting and worth lots of debate! Or is that just me?

    Glad to see you posting again. Hope you're doing well???

  1. Gnetch said...:

    I totally agree. Meeting halfway is the best thing to do.

    What I can't stand is if the guy talks about his ex A LOT. Mother effer! I'm out! :)

  1. Nashe^ said...:

    If he disses my love for watching sappy dramas then he's got one foot out the door! Alpha males in Asia... I'm not sure how that pans out. Most of them think they're all that with a side of fries.

  1. Kym said...:

    I'm not sure if that's just an "Asian" thing... but then again, i'm Asian myself so what do i know? haha! But you're right - i dated this one guy who didn't see the need to EVER call me or text me. Like the only time i would hear from him is if we went out and after that it's as if i wasn't even dating someone. haha! There's lots of things about my fiance now that I still don't like but the fact of the matter is, we're two different people and we're always going to have SOMETHING we don't agree with on the other person... it's all about compromise and communication. :)

  1. tee said...:

    It's definitely not just an "Asian" thing, love. Haha. The number one thing I always look for in a relationship is good communication. If he wants to hang out with his boys all Saturday night, that's fine. Just let me know about it first. Don't just disappear into the night without so much as a text message and think that will be okay.

    Glad to see a post from you again. Hope all is well!

  1. Heather said...:

    He has to have a good relationship with his mom. Sounds silly, but it sort of reflects how he will treat women. I get the idea of a guy being stable, but speaking from experience sometimes a little instability shakes things up a little.

    Jealousy is a wasted emotion so the instant that comes out...buh bye!

  1. seriously, is that you, Andhari? Ndee? Hahahaha... You've disappeared for long and suddenly you're back talking about boys and relationships, yay! :P me love this kind of stuffff...

    anyway, yes. agreed, insecurities suck. For me, it's the willingness to adjust. To adapt to each other's imperfections. I mean, you know... there's no such thing as 100% perfect, there must be holes here and there, but as long as the two understand how to adjust, I think there will be less problems. (Of course there will still be problems anyway, lol)

    so happy that you're back! *hugs* missed you! :P

  1. gem said...:

    I think we all sort of want someone similar to us in terms of these values sorts of things. Like you value being told beforehand where a guy is going. I don't really care for that. Mostly because I couldn't be bothered to do it either. (Plus I like to idealize trust so much that even if he's hanging out with his ex-girlfriend without telling me, I can trust that it's not a big deal to him.) And I also, for a while, didn't value stability because my life wasn't stable. The last guy I dated was working a lame hourly wage job and sort of just enjoying having lots of free time. But so was I, at the time. So it fit perfectly and we were good for each other for that period in our lives. It's about finding someone who fits with you and your values.

  1. NITIA / MONTO said...:

    i completely agree. and nobody's perfect, sometimes when there's a flaw in someone that we love, we can tolerate that. the best thing from a guy that i love is how he would give me self-assurance. because he, himself is self-assured about his life. to me, that's where the secure feeling comes up.

    what a great article, Ndee. should be published on a magazine in the relationship section :P

  1. OmegaRadium said...:

    Relationship talk, one of my favorite subjects...despite the fact that I seem to suck at them. :P

    I'm not Asian, I'm latino, and I really love it when my girlfriend/potential-girlfriend maintains open communication with me. A great relationship is built on open communication and trust.

    Nothing irks me more than hearing about her going out with friends without me at least being informed. She doesn't need permission, thats not what I'm saying, but I like to know about it.

    If she brings people over to her place, guy or gal, I definitely need to know about it beforehand.

    Relationships are hard, and if both people aren't willing to openly communicated, trust, and compromise by meeting in the middle...this it's doomed to fail.

    I think too many of us have forgotten that relationships are about 2x people and not just "me, me, me."

  1. Jen said...:

    Tough subject. On one hand, I like a handsome looking guy, and I feel like I've found one (current boyfriend) but at times I feel insecure because of that. Stability is good, and knowing what he wants in life is always a plus. For me though, money, car and material things don't matter all that much. I like that my guy has a strong relationship with his family and that his family is very together. Also that he has strong Christian (same religion as I am) values and applies them to his life. I feel that religion and having the same religion helps so much more! Everything seems to just fall in to place after that.

  1. tiff said...:

    Haha Jen linked me your entry because she was mentioning how she read a similar entry to mine today.

    It's been a while since I last visited your blog, and I'm glad to see that you're still going at it.

    Back to the topic, It's completely fine to be anal and choosy about your potential partners. We should NEVER settle for less. We want that right, suitable match who we can be happy with for the rest of our lives. So if anything, we need to be crazy-picky when it comes to men and dating.

    At the same time, we also need to be open to anything. I use to state all the time that I will NEVER date a guy who smokes, never. And then...I meant a guy who has been smoking for ten years, which is disgusting, but everything else about him was oddly attractive and appealing to me. Now, we're together and he quit smoking for good :)

    I think it's fine to have a list of what women look for in a guy, such as what you have. Though sometimes, we tend to fall for the guy who doesn't fall in that ideal category. Love is such a weird thing and it's anything but logical.

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  1. Sheri said...:

    I think that a stable guy is good for a relationship, but they still need to be a bit spontaneous and can also fit you into their life.

    I don’t think that the “trophy” kind would be a good way to go because those types are often ones that won’t end up with their first wife most of the time, right? Being insecure sucks, and always wondering if why they are late is because they are with someone else…. Yeah pretty sucky. :(

    Having set things that you do or don’t want and being very pick is a good thing! At least I think so, because really, who wants to end up with someone you don’t want to be with? Not us! :)

    BTW, I am loving this season of The Vampire Diaries too! I still love Damon though! :)

  1. Lady Mel said...:

    I'm a Damon fan. Woot :D